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Chriss Bard
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: Gothic vs Gothic Punk |
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This has been the raging source of many a late night debate between myself & my friend Paul.
My Opinion:
Gothic = Dead Can Dance, This Mortal Coil etc
Whereas Gothic Punk = Bauhaus, Sisters, March Violets etc...
Paul's opinion:
Gothic = Bauhaus, Sisters, March Violets etc...
Dead Can Dance, This Mortal Coil etc = Hippy / Folk music!
Just to clarify I'm 37 - Paul is 43 - He always used to refer to me as being a 'Diddy Goth'
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, i'm a bit younger than you guys. But iv'e always classed the original post-punk bands as 'proper' goth.
Mind you, my mate Nile calls himself a 'post punk', even though he's into the early stuff same as me, trying to distance himself from a lot of the tat that appeared later, think. Back in the late '80's he was happy being termed a goth, but when manson, 13 candles etc came about, he changed his mind!
Nowerdays, a lot of goths haven't even heard of UK decay, 1919, ausgang etc, so i'm happy to add 'punk' onto the 'goth' bit.
Iv'e always classed the cocteau's, DCD etc as etherial Gothic (but still part of an overall Gothic Rock term).
And yeah, sisters and Violets are definetly Gothic Rock. |
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bonzi Druid
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Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 37 Location: leicester
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: post punk? |
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i still stayed a punk yet went to see bands like xmal deutchland , flesh for lulu , crown of thorns, skeletal family,lords of the new church, sisters etc, i feel all these bands progressed from punk, yet it was the 80s, so much going on.
i had a few punk friends who turned goth, so in between going to punk gigs i went and saw these bands, many played at our local venue friars in aylesbury.especially bauhaus.
its hard to say which is best and who had most influence. it depends on taste, everyone has their own ideas. like punk i hated bands like crass, yet would choose uk subs or vibrators any day.
anyway just an opinion. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ hello. |
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bonzi Druid
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: post punk nile? |
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is that nile from northampton?
hello, i heard nile was into elton john when he was younger, you will find his collection of spandau ballet, and right said fred at the back of his wardrobe.
seriously nile has good taste in what he calls post punk, im that much older so have seen many of these bands. i could never get into the eyeliner. _________________ hello. |
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scary girl Druid
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Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Paul
I'm 28
wasn't there a definition from the Batcave called Death Punks? I was told about it once.. ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ "if the music is loud enough we won't hear the world falling apart" ["Jubilee" ] |
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nydecay
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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well gothic punk should have some punk in it so sisters are not gothic punk imo
gothic punk = UK Decay, Ausgang, X-Ray spex (even), Inca Babies, Birthday Party _________________
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Ghost Bard
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Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 24 Location: London, UK (in Exile)
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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X-Ray Specs, goths... now I never saw that angle before. Still, love em to bits.
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scary girl Druid
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Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Ghost wrote: | X-Ray Specs, goths... now I never saw that angle before. Still, love em to bits.
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I can't help but agreeing with you, sir
[Dead and buried was amazing and apparently I had an excellent feedback from loads of people, so might happene again! this time Spon (are you reading this mr ?) Tibor and you MUST be there wiv all of us
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