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|Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: John Loder 1946-2005 RIP
|John Loder 1946-2005 RIP
John Loder passed away August 12 2005.
He will be remembered by many on UK Decay Communities
as the Co Producer with the band of the 'For Madmen Only'
and 'Rising From the Dread' albums.
Below is a tribute from Steve Spon..
|Steve Spon wrote: |
| John Loder was an extraordinary �behind the scenes� figure in the underground
of the British music scene during the early 80�s.
He preferred the idiom, �discretion is the art of valour� He was a true gentleman,
a top producer.
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In the 70�s he built his recording studio from a garage at the back of his home in
Palmers Green, North London. From there he also ran the �umbrella� record company
Southern Records (later in the 90�s becoming known as �SRD�), going on to host such
labels as Crass Records, Chorpus Christie Records, UK Decay Records and many more
during the 80�s.
Southern today has become one of the top independent music companies having also
flourished during the Dance music revolutions of the 90�s and has offices in London
and in the USA.
John had a highly professional attitude towards sound production using only the best
of the available technology; he would go that extra mile towards attaining �that sound�.
A close friend of Penny Rimbaud he was the business end of the �Anarcho-Punksters�
Crass, Poison Girls among many other bands including UK Decay.
It was John Loder that got us out of that mess that resulted in the collapse of Fresh
Records. We had got to know him through recording the Unexpected Guest/Dresden
single at his studio. He become very keen on us for some reason and swept
in with an offer to resolve the situation, which he succeeded in doing very quickly.
Next he offered us a deal that we couldn�t refuse which saw us forming our own label,
UK Decay Records. He guided us like an uncle giving us support where we needed in
many ways. Personally whilst travelling to an interview in London�s West End, we
were pulled over in Mayfair by a Police minibus apparently under the then �Suss� laws.
I had an outstanding fine and was arrested and taken to a Soho police station. After 3
hours in the cells I was beginning to wonder what was to become of me, when the cell
doors opened and a cop was saying � I don�t know who you know, but your free to go�.
I had a distinct feeling that our �uncle� John had pulled some invisible strings!
We spent a good few months with him in 1981 recording �For Madmen� with him
guiding us through the �making of the first album� process. A lot of tough lessons
were learnt during that period, one namely that we didn�t have a permanent
At times he would be forced to place our na�ve enthusiasm for new ideas into the real
world. But on the other hand he would have a tape on standby to record at the drop of
a hat. One example was the recording in 1982 of the �Werewolf� sounds at the beginning
of the track of the same name.
John had just taken delivery of brand new state of the art, AMS Digital reverb and
harmoniser. Plugging them both in together for the first time we experimented, with
Abbo speaking into the mic, the end result was that phantasmal eerie sound. We turned
down the lights and John surreptitiously pressed the record button whilst Abbo fed on
the drama. Afterwards I said, �It was a shame it wasn�t recorded�. John turned and
looked at me with a wry smile and said, �Well actually, it was�. The two minutes of
this performance was duly spliced onto the beginning of the already recorded Werewolf
although not without the go ahead� of Penny Rimbaud who had misgivings about it.
His label Chorpus Christie was releasing it after all! It was a radical decision and John
The Rising from the dread EP was the last time I personally recorded at John�s studio
although I did from time to time visit or phone on business. The last time I saw him was
in 1992, John, Steve Harle and myself discussed the Cd release plans that at that time,
which unfortunately came to nothing.
Earlier this year (2005) Captain and myself visited Southern in hope of securing a future
relationship with John Loder and Southern and to try and figure what out the tape stocks
situation was. We were informed then that John was suffering from �ill health� and
would temporarily be unavailable to meet, although his representatives would be able to
pass on messages. We exchanged regards.
It seems that tapes are prone to decay after ten, fifteen years, at which they need a
special process in order to make back-up master tapes that will last another ten years.
John had realised this and had done so with our album �For Madmen� in 2001.
Typical of our �uncle John� always thoughtful, a great inspiration to many but a thorn
in the side of the music business, for him the music was much more important than the
money, he was a true champion of DIY culture.
Our thoughts and sympathies go out to Sue and Natasha, his wife and daughter.
John Loder RIP.
John Loder seen here on the left, arms folded black T-Sirt.
from a video still of the "UK Decay at the Luton Carnival" 1982.
In the middle next to John and behind his tape recorder is Alison.
On the right in the white T-Shirt is Grizz, UK Decay's Live sound
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